80/10/10- what do you think??
So I've been raw for bout nine months now.. I've also been a vegetarian for 6 years and vegan for 2 years...'
I have a question bout CANDiDA and the 80/10/10 diet.. I've been suffering for candida-related issues for exactly TWO LONG YEARS now..=/ At first I did not know it could be Candida...I found it out just a few days ago..!!!! =// So I read many opinions of people who suffered from it and cured themselves by adopting a low fat raw vegan diet..I decided to give it a try.At the beginning of my raw journey I 'enjoyed' a pretty high fat diet yeahh..=// And lately I've not been eating any nuts but still having one avocado per day...
My symptoms are mostly located on my SKiN which is really uncomfortable for me..it's come to the point I have big constant rashes on my body(especially on my hips..) and also on my left hand..they are so itchy...they almost burn..I've been also getting lots of red itchy rashes/spots all over my face...=//
And today is DAY EiGHT of my JOURNEY to RECOVERY ON LOW FAT RAW VEGAN...I have to tell you I notice a great improvement in my symptoms..my face is pretty clear but I'm still getting some itchy rashes on some days..=// and as for now my body is stil really itchy and the rashes on my hips often burn so much =/ My skin is really dry but I keep it going without putting anything on it...
I really belive this lifestyle and food will heal me...it's so natural and I enjoy it soo much!! It feels great to eat as natuure intended =)
But what I'd love to know from you is HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE TO COMPLETELY GET RID OF THE CANDIDA SKIN SYMPTOMS??? How long it's been for you and also important ..WHAT DID YOU EAT WHILE CURING CANDIDA..????
Here's my meal plan from today...
1..- Melon blend- 1 honeydew melon blended with water and ice cubes
2.- Strawberry ice cream made wwith strawberries and five small bananas + 2 small kiwi fruits
3.-another Berry ice cream with kiwis (the same ammount)
4.-zucchini spaghetti (from 1 1/2 zucch) with cherry tomatoes and almost a pound of green leaf lettuce lemon juice
Well...I'll be soooooo happy to see some answers from YOU PEOPLE who are following the low fat raw !!!! =DDD
oHH lulushka8 thanks for the comment!! ... well..maybe I'll mark clearly HOW MUCH I ate..
1. - 1 middle sized honeydew melon blended
2.- 1 lbs strawberries and 10 bananas
3.- 4 kiwis
4.- pound of greens
5.- 1 big zucchini and a half
6.- pound of cherry tomatoes
Yeah...I need more..=//
congrats about finding something that works for you. i think a lot of people feel really at home with the 80/10/10 diet. i feel that it is the best diet for healing many afflictions. i used to have really really bad candida and now at 4 months on 80/10/10 i can eat high fat meals, like for 3 days in a row, and not have any candida problems. however in the begiing i really need to keep the fats low or else iw ould have problems. i think if you go no overt fats for 4 days you will see worlds worlds worlds of difference :) my advice would just be to try to keep the overt fats low for a while.
keep your calories higher to cut out cravings. your body will love all the nutrients you are getting and eventually your body will stabalize and you won't need quite so many calories.
:) you can ask more questions on www.30bananasaday.com too if you need.
Girls,thank you for the answers!! =D
lulushka, I'll do this for sure thanx!! =D
zinfandel , oh you've had candida..!! It's an awful thing..=/ well,actually I'm NO FAT for that 8 days right now...
I really think it helps me a lot...improvement is visible but I'm still getting the rashes and itching...=//
Is there sth that could speed up the whole process..??
my name is Maggie on that site :)
Just give it time. You had this problem for 2 years and you are anxious after only 8 days :) The body works on it's own time.
Agnes!!! It's me- Jo. I'm so happy you're on this site!!! I knew it was you after reading a few sentences.
I'm glad your rashes are getting better. I've noticed 80/10/10 definitely helped with my skin. I don't follow it religiously like I used to, but it is a great way of eating.
my breakfast was almost the same as yours- one whole cantaloupe blended with water and ice. it's my favorite way to eat a melon!!
Can anyone tell me how to get more information about 80-10-10? My husband is out of work right now (who isn't right?), and I can't afford to purchae the book. My library doesn't have it :(
Oh thank you ALL SOOOOO SOOO MUCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Your support means sooo much =) And you gave me more hope,that's needed for sure!! =D THANX !!!!! =**
lulushka,mono-mealing..!! I think I'll try it! =D Thank you for the idea =)
zinfandel, oh yeahh..I know it takes time..=) but you know how it is...you just want everything done right now hah!! =P I'll be patient =))
kiwiandme - there are plenty of informations on the Web =) check out the 80/10/10 diet on google =) And I can recommend you Dr.Graham's site www.foodnsport.com ..oh and here's a GREAT blog by a lovely woman who describes her life on the 80/10/10 path ..=) Many ideas,infos etc, =D Check it!!
JOANNA !!!!!!! Ohhhh JO,,,,!!! Great to 'meet' you here!! =D I decided to join =D Will be fun for sure =DDD
How cute is it that we had THE SAME breakfast hah!!!!!!?? =DDDD We're meant to be friend,Jo hah =DD
I'm waiting for your email...will you write me,dear..?? =)))
Can you give me an example of all the food you might eat in a day of 80-10-10?
Kiwiandme you can eat FRUIT, GREENS and VEGGiES =D And make lots of things with those =D
Just look at my meal plan =))
You can make green smoothies , puddings, ice-cream ..=)
You can make salads with different stuff there =)
But simplicity is BEST =D
And do you want to start this diet..?? =D
Breakfast- as much watermelon as you want
Lunch- As many bananas as you want, as much lettuce as you want. alternating bites. YUM! this is soo good.
Dinner- A salad with mango dressing
Snack- Apples or dates
It can get even less complicated than you want. Just eat 3 items or even less a day. Like, apples, mangos, bananas. Or oranges bananas mangos. Or just eat watermelon. Hey! It's awesome.
I don't count whether I'm 80-10-10, but I do no added/concentrated fat 6/7 days per week.
I'll cut and paste some of my "What Did You Eat Today" postings:
Greens/berries/fungus/seaweed powder with green tea
Green smoothie with apple, banana, collard, kale
1 c. pineapple, 1/2 c. strawberries, 1 c. grapes
Green smoothie with apple, mango, banana, collard, kale
10 cups of mixed sprouts (they are so good.....plus I haven't had a large movement yet today; something is blocking me up; thought they'd help. :( not yet!)
1 banana (plain, not in smoothie)
And for when my banana digests, for later when I watch 24 with my boyfriend, I have made a cilantro, kale, collard, romaine, celery, cucumber, and carrot juice with three-seaweed mixture.
Greens/berries/fungus/seaweed powder with water
Green smoothies with bananas, pears, apples, collards, kale
Mango (mono eating it, about 6 whole ones)
Banana whip with cinnamon (about 3 bananas)
Spring mix salad with tomatoes, carrots, cucumber, sprouts, and grapes (no dressing)
Banana whip with cinnamon (about 3 bananas)
Romaine salad with cilantro, garlic, cucumber (no dressing
Greens/berries/fungus/seaweed powder with water
Apple, banana, kale green smoothie (very large, about 3 16-oz containers worth)
Apple, carrot, kale, jalapeno, celery juice
1 c. strawberries
1 c. grapes
1 c. pineapple
2 c. mango
4 cucumbers, noodled and with tomato & sun-dried tomato basil sauce (no fat added), with spinach and extra basil.
4 c. blueberries
3 c. strawberries
6 c. grapes
3 zucchini, noodled (:))
Fresh & sun-dried tomato sauce with lemon juice, basil, dates, a bit of pink salt
Green juice with cucumber, celery, kale, spinach, parsley
About 15 dates
Oh, yeah, I did make a salad with spinach and parsley but one of the two didn't taste right, so I didn't eat much of it but had 7 large lettuce leaves instead
A lot of 801010ers dont even make salads. Just wrap fruit in lettuce and your good to go. Or eat a head of lettuce alone. Tastes like butter.
Ohhhh nice eats =DD
zinfandel that's right!! I LOVE RiPE MANGO SLICES wrapped in lettuce leaves...mmmmmmmm....
Do you mono-meal often...?????
i pretty much only monomeal. at least 2 meals a day. i never use a blender either. right now i'm blissing out on watermelon and eating it alone for a couple of days. 'watermelon island' it's like one step up from a fast. im in love!
Here's an interview I did with 80/10/10er Michael Arnstein, a marathon runner. He's very intelligent. :)
With three kids, a wife and a business to run, one would think that New Yorker, Michael Arnstein would not have time for much else. But Arnstein also races in marathons, ultramarathons, triathlons and has participated in the Ironman in Hawaii four times. He has won smaller and medium-sized marathons around the country, and said his best time in a marathon is two hours and 31 minutes.
Arnstein said his diet plays a vital part in his success. He has been eating a diet of only raw fruits and vegetables for a year and a half. Arnstein said his diet is called the 80/10/10 diet because fruits and vegetables in their natural state are primarily in a ratio of 80 percent carbohydrates, 10 percent protein and 10 percent fat. Many people may consider Arnstein’s diet to be extreme, but in addition to other techniques he uses to train, he said his performance has greatly improved.
What are some improvements you’ve seen since switching to an 80/10/10 raw diet?
I’m 32 years old, and I’m running faster than I ever have in my life, even when I was 17 and 18 years old. I have better skin. My muscles are defined. I could be an underwear model because my abdominal muscles are so etched in my body, and I don’t even do sit-ups. I haven’t had a cold once in a year and a half.
Why do you think this diet is the best diet for runners?
Diet is always really big with athletes. Trying to find the silver bullet to make you better and faster. Running is pretty simple. If you weigh more, you’re going to go slower. If an airplane weighs a lot, it’s going to need to use more energy to go the same distance. If you weigh less you can do more using less power.
Because I lost weight, I am able to run much faster. My body fat has never been lower in my life. I’m eating more than I ever have in my life. Everybody hates diets. Eating a raw 80/10/10 diet is like the magic diet pill. Everyone wants to eat more and be really lean. Eating raw 80/10/10, you can eat as much as you want, and you’ll still be super lean. Your body doesn’t have to work hard to digest the food. Your body can do other things like repair muscle tissue. While you sleep, your body is repairing everything in your body, not trying to digest dinner.
What do you eat on a typical day?
I eat like 25 pounds of fruits and vegetables every day. If you look at that ratio to my bodyweight and if you look at a horse’s ratio to their body weight, it’s probably right in line with what other natural wild animals eat a day. 80/10/10 is so simple. It’s one of the greatest things about it. It’s just raw fruits and vegetables. That’s it. You’re eating a diet of food that’s made by nature. To be an advanced 80/10/10er, try not to combine too many foods. Try to mono-eat. If it takes more than 30 seconds to prepare your foods, you’re probably not eating optimally. The only thing you can do to an apple to process it is maybe to cut it up into slices with a knife.
You can’t count calories when you eat 80/10/10 like you do when you eat cooked foods. You can’t say, ‘Oh my God, I’m going to eat 4,000 calories a day, I’m going to gain weight.’ Fruits and veggies are 90 percent water. The body will not convert that to fat. When you eat a diet of just fruit and vegetables, you have to eat high quality produce and you have to really enjoy so you eat as much as you need.
Any time during the day people are planning what to eat, where to eat, who to eat with and how to prepare the food. People spend so much time obsessing about dinner. 80/10/10 frees up 30 percent of what’s going on in your mind in a day. Today, I’m just eating grapefruits. I’m probably going have 30 grapefruits. I don’t think about it.
Is the 80/10/10 diet really healthy?
Eating this diet keeps your body lean. You’ll get down to your optimal weight automatically. If you look at a horse or a cow in nature, not on an industrial farm, they’re never even a little bit overweight. They’re lean and at the body composition that they need to be to survive in nature. In nature, fat animals wouldn’t survive well. If you think of a monkey in nature, the monkey is never fat. The monkey’s baby is always very lean. The mother monkey has to carry the baby around. Fat babies aren’t healthy, nature wouldn’t allow it. They wouldn’t survive well. Who can walk around carrying a fat offspring when you need to forage for food or build shelter?
You don’t need that much protein. Mother’s milk when they’re feeding a baby is 6 to 8 percent protein by volume. Humans are growing at their fastest rate when they’re infants. If they only need six to eight percent if they’re growing, why would you need that much protein as an adult when you are already fully grown? I’ve never recovered so fast in my life. I’ve even tried the Atkins diet, and I had a stress fracture that was a result of the high protein diet and lots of running. The body didn’t recover properly eating all that protein. All the protein that you need is in fruits and vegetables. Since adopting a strict raw 80/10/10 diet, I have had no injury issues, even with increased training loads.
What are some other benefits you have noticed?
The thing that you notice within the first week is you won’t have a body odor. People just assume your clothes are dirty at the end of the day because they smell. When you start eating this way, you realize the food you were putting into you was just rotting. Nothing smells when you eat a raw 80/10/10 diet. In the morning, you don’t have to wash your hair as much. You feel really clean and light. When you eat 80/10/10, you eat food that is alive, and your body thrives on it.
What else do you recommend for training?
If you don’t sleep and you do everything else right, you’re not going to be successful. I try to stay in bed for as many as 12 hours if I’m really going to be focused on training my best. I try and sleep as much as 10 hours. Also, flexibility and stretching. You have to have a really good range of motion. If your stride is three inches shorter than it could be and you multiply that over the length of a marathon, it’s a huge difference in performance.
hi agnes! you are on the right path! i follow a low-fat raw vegan diet of fruits and greens and i love it! i had candida before i started this diet and the symptoms started to go away instantly after i started eating just fruit.
here are some recommended readings:
your natural diet: alive and raw foods by david klein and t.c. fry
any health book by herbert shelton, especially natural hygiene: man's pristine way of life
the 80/10/10 diet by doug graham
here's a great site:
also, look up fruit combining so that you don't hinder digestion.
Thanks again everyone. Is it a good plan to just eat? Just east losts of fruits and vegetable whenever I want, and when I am hunger. I really don't like planning much. I like to go with the flow. I am nuts about watermelon right now too!
Did you experience any detox-like symptoms when you started? I have been eating 80% raw for 10 days, but I ate 100% raw yesterday, and my stomach is just not right today. It's almost like a hang over with no headache.
By the way, you all have been so very sweet. Thanks for the advice!
kiwiandme, the only detox symptom i had were pimples. i think since i was such a healthy eater before raw, i wasn't bombarded with stomach aches and head aches.
do any of you guys have good fruit/veggie dressing recipes (amounts would help, i.e. 1 banana with etc) ? this is what i have on hand: bananas, strawberries, grapes, lemons, papaya, brocolli, spinach, celery, romaine, and 1/4 of a red pepper.
I really have eaten quit healthy too. I did limit myself to 1 serving a cereal or a piece of bread a day. I think it may just be all the fiber.
I was looking for dressing recipes for you on GR and all full of nuts, ug! So many nuts!
I did an Advanced Search for recipes or forums with the word "dressing" and without the words "cashew, almond or nuts". Got 70 pages. I included the forums because frequently people talk about condiments within the threads. You can refine this basic search if you'd like. Click Advanced Search. Leave the Keywords as they are, and enter ingredients you do or do not wish included in your results. Then click Advanced Search again. Good luck.
PS: My absolute favorite "dressings" are either lime or orange juice, fresh squeezed directly onto the salad at the table.
I don't know if you'd have medicinal herbal teas as they're not strictly raw but for me they're a wonderful addition to the diet. Pau d'arco is such a great anti-fungal tree no fungus grow anywhere around its roots. Taken as tea for a couple of weeks it works miracles on Candida. I usually think a healthy raw diet is enough to help the body heal but sometimes when something is quite out of balance (such as gut flora) then medicinal herbs are just the thing to nudge it back.
Just a thought anyway :) x