Honestly I trust Cannabis News as much as I trust the government. Perspective is great...smoking is also really good for you if you plan on developing lung cancer. Smokers' lungs tend to get tumors at the outer edges, where it's more treatable with surgery, and patients can retain some lung function. Nonsmokers get their tumors deep inside the lungs, where it's nearly impossible to get at and expect a successful outcome. With this data, it would seem advisable to smoke!
Suasoria its been proven in studys that people who smoke cannabis actually have LESS of a chance to get lung cancer then non smokers. Wrap your head around that for a moment and please stop fear mongering :)
Wow, lots of interesting stuff, and lots of strong opinions.
Couple of things I'd like to point out:
1. The arguement of "one joint is equal to (x) cigarettes" is simply ridiculous. It's apples and oranges. I hereby state that smoking one joint is equal to smoking the rind of one watermelon. That makes as much sense as comparing marijuana with processed tobacco.
2. Don't split your values, folks. Before posting a major news source as saying that pot is bad for people, check out what they think of YOUR lifestyle. Lots of these places will have barbequed meat and baked breads in their "health and lifestyle" sections. Maybe they're wrong in other places, too.
I wish I could still smoke. Since I've had kids, it just makes me feel weird and paranoid...and yes, the munchies suck! But hey, power to the people who do. I'd rather see alcohol outlawed...never met a violent pothead in my life. :)
Unless you're growing it organically by yourself, you don't know what's being added into it. Some dealers put traces of crystal meth in it which you don't really notice or other things to make production cheaper. Also bad for your lungs. I'm from a country where it's legal and I still don't like to smoke it. It's bad for your brain and there are cases where heavy "pot-heads" have acquired schizophrenia from it.
my pot is organic. grown by a personal family friend
Keewi, I was referring to smoking cigarettes when I mentioned the lung cancer issue. My bad - I was not clear!
personally, pot's not my thing. addiction's in my family and i prefer to always be present.
i dont care if people want to smoke every now and then, but i think it's unfortunate that people feel the need to get baked allll the time. i agree it's pretty natural, but isn't just living life in a 100% conscious state even more natural? you should be able to act a fool or get deep without it. the present in its actuality is beautiful as is. meditation and cleansing can take you anywhere.
also, i'm 15 and i have friends that havent gone three days without smoking pot in a couple of years. they do insane things to get their hands on a couple of joints. three people have died in my town this year from driving while being baked on weed. i think it messes with your judgement if you arent mindful of the power weed has.
in any case it should be legal. it would help out mexico's drug trafficking, cancer patients need it, america sure as hell could use the tax cash, and everyone's going to smoke it anyway-the prohibition didnt work either. i think it's ridiculous that some old peaceful smokers end up in jail for years when child molesters can get out in a month.
I think it should be legal, and just like foods that are not so great for you, should be used in moderation.
I know people that smoke WAY too much in my opinion, and I know other people who use it occasionally, and they are fine.
I agree with someones statement about our bodies being all clogged up with other crap is much worse. I could see how the use of MJ could exacerbate other underlying illnesses.
I've got all kinds of opinions on this, but others have already said them. Basically, it's an amazing plant. I will totally be at hempfest this weekend! Wonder if I'll run into anyone from this forum?
The smoke is bad--the plant is good and sould be legal. I've heard of people making a tea out of it,which seems like the safest consumtion method to me.
What bothers me most about cannabis are the kind of people who profit from it as a consequence of it being illegal - gangs and the like. On the other hand, if it were legalised wordwide there's a good chance that loads of big evil corporations would jump on the bandwagon. Although, it seems that big evil corporations are the reason it's illegal to begin with - it's a threat to the cotton, tobacco, alcohol, pharmaceutical and forestry industries it seems. Not that I care, I think it's absolutely outrageous that such a massively beneficial plant is prohibited. I don't smoke it, either.
And grow some at home for you and your friends, it smells lovely. Yes, I'm advocating illegal activity. Because the law is a heap of horseshite.
I have read some of everyone has said about marijuana and I think I'll put my two cents in.
I used to smoke weed all the time, way too much. It's been around 2 years since I first smoked and boy has my life been changed by it. For a long time and I just got out of the rut this summer, I smoked it every day. For around 5-6 months I smoked 2-4 times a day I was literally high or out of it 24/7. For me it was a crutch and I was self-medicating with it. I have had depression ever since I was young, since around 3rd grade, half of my life (I am 18). Marijuana helped me forget about my depression and made me feel good. I just wanted to feel good. I became vegetarian before I smoked so I was somewhat healthy and I always thought they cancelled each other out.
For me Marijuana soon went from a "fun thing" to a daily dose of medicine that just warped life for me and really messed me up. It was my Junior year of high school that I spent most of the time high and I wish I could take it back. I went to a small Christian school (80-90 in my class) and once senior year came around I regretted not really meeting everyone, because I had pushed myself away from reality to realize how nice people were around me. When I came to school high I didn't want to talk to anyone, I couldn't understand much of what was going on. I didn't own my life.
This summer after graduating I still smoked at night time when my mum was asleep but I hated how it made me sleep so much, like until after noon. I started to exercise more and care a bit more for my health and now its January and I have adopted a good exercise regimen and a healthy high raw diet. I feel so high on life that I don't need weed. When there is good company and spicy/gingery food (oh man a carrot smoothie with lots of ginger root (2 tbsp) makes me feel so good or a fermented banana(almost all brown) and ginger smoothie makes me feel so good) - I feel so high and when I laugh at something so completely and simply funny I feel the best and this high won't make me sleep way too much and put me in a bad mood.
Marijuana is good, but in moderation. I let it take over my life and I hate it. The paranoia, anxiety, depression, bad moods, excessive sleeping, and fatigue it gave me was unbearable and is not welcome in my now very new active raw lifestyle. To say I will never smoke again is probably not true I might see what its like for a flashback next summer.So smoke if you want, yes there will be some tar and gunk in your lungs but I rarely ever smoked more than a big bowl which is less than a half cigarette. Have fun with it but don't let it rule you.
Thank you for your testimony on weed. I, too have felt the grip of it and letting it control my life. I've finally figured out how I could personally stay raw while smoking but the other affects on me were too damaging and the raw food lifestyle without smoking pot is much more appealing. I appreciate your words. Thank you.
You're welcome. I am happy I could aid in advice giving. Its sorta sad what you have to endure to learn a lesson.
You know that thing they call runner's high I think it is my drug of choice after I do exercise boy do I get the munchies! Today after my high I ate a quarter pound of baby greens with 2 avocados and parsley and a Grapefruit and Greens Smoothie! Can't wait to get high tomorrow! lol
Am I the only person on this forum who shudders with disgust whenever something is added to this post and it pops up in the forum list yet again? (Then again here I am doing it now... grrr.... :)
I don't care if I'm not being diplomatic - weed, in my opinion, is absolutely disgusting and I personally have no idea why anyone would choose to get high. Because it makes you feel good when you use it? So do hundreds of other things including diazepines but it doesn't mean we should go running off popping pills. I don't buy the "but it's natural" crap either. So is opium.
We should all be capable of feeling good and being happy without the assistance of drugs. You need drugs to have "deep thoughts"? Really? Gross.
As for the opinion that marijuana is not addictive: It's mentally addictive. Same as me with my tea. When you like something, and it produces a relaxing effect, there's always a chance of overdoing it, and depending too much on that thing to calm, relax, enlighten, or make you happy. Being a relaxant, it does tend to make people lazy and addictive in general, however, NOT everyone. The "all or nothing" mentality is the same reason why some people only drink to get drunk, or overeat. Moderation is the key in EVERYTHING.
I personally don't believe in it for recreational use. I do think it helps Terminal cancer and AIDs patients deal with pain and up their appetite. As someone pointed out, raw and FRESH, it doesn't make you high (animals eat it in the wild with no ill effects), and I think it could possibly be used as a salad green. But for my own spirituality, body, and mind, I'm not at all interested. But that is a personal decision.
And in Europe it's known that marijuana is LESS harmful than cigarettes. A friend of a friend whom uses it consistently hacks up phlem and sounds sickly when they smoke no-additive cigarettes (when they are organic he hacks a little less), but when he smokes "pot" he sounds normal. All smoke is bad smoke though when it comes down to it, yes.
There is a lot to be said on this issue.... I certainly think it should be a personal choice. I find it funny that when it comes to abortion "it's my body, my choice", despite the fact that you're killing something and had the choice not to have sex in the first place (I'm not pointing fingers, I'm just saying), but when it comes to recreational drugs (and in some places in the u.s.- alcohol), they are still illegal. What? Isn't that "your body your choice" so long as you do it in the comfort of your home? How can people regulate personal decision like that?
To the poster: I must say, eat or vaporize it for your own sake if you choose to use it. I'm not going to judge you just because I have a medical-only opinion of it. I respect your choice even if I disagree with it.
"One joint equals 40, yes forty cigarettes as far as the amount of damage it does to your system..."
PURE BS. Most of the information out there is pure BS. Weed does not contain TAR, that is what cigarettes have from the thousands of chemicals ADDED to it. Thousands die from alcohol poisoning every year, NOT ONE person has died from marijuana. It's impossible to overdose on it.
I was taking prozac AND lithium AND xanax, ALL TOXIC to my body to treat manic depression and anxiety. I was also drinking because the medicine wasn't relieving the symptoms (duh). I switched to an all natural PLANT, cannabis, and I dropped every other chemical I put into my body. I DON'T EVEN TAKE TYLENOL. And now for the first time I have enough motivation in my life to exercise and eat raw.
It cures cancer, nausea, glaucoma, hypertension, depression, ADHD, and the list goes on.
Did I say it cures cancer? You better believe it. PURE THC oil has been shown to cure cancer, weed given to brain cancer patients in Switzerland shrank all the brain tumors and cleared them.
Why don't you want to believe this? Because you want to keep believing that the government wouldn't withdraw a SAFE, EFFECTIVE, NATURAL, medicine from you. Think again. Or keep your head in the sand buying the "find a cure" ribbons when god already gave us a cure in the form of a PLANT, your call.
I really do love the idea that plants can cure diseases...one more reason for us all to eat another banana (or 40...).
weed's a personal choice though, and I understand if you want to use it, but I won't be hanging about while someone does smoke...nor would I allow it in my home (weed smell lingers, eh?)
Straight edge for 7 years now. It is not health building, and it serves no purpose in MY healthy diet. However you use it, is up to you. :)
It really helps me with my PTSD.
It was either that or the Dr.s were going to put me on anxiety meds which are pure poison.
It helps with those days when the nasties hit and its hard to leave the house.
All this fuss over a "plant"...for crying out loud I hear George Washington smoked it!
I know this is an old post but I have to say something. Especially since I am a substance abuse counselor. A drug is a drug is a drug. Some drugs come in liquid form (alcohol), some in plant, some in powder or pill form. Any time you use psychoactive drugs you run the risk of becoming addicted. People have the misconception that MJ is harmless. Aside from the obvious, breathing smoke is unhealthy, prolonged use will cause physical brain shrinkage. You also run the risk of becoming an addict.
I have MS and it was the only thing that resolved my optic neuritis. Since I drive for a living, being able to see is kind of important. I tried acupuncture, herbs (lots of anti-inflammatory stuff), etc without results. It was the last trick up my sleeve and within hours it had fixed my vision. So glad I left the option open when needed, and will continue to do so. People can abuse anything, it has nothing to do with the substance itself.
I smoke weed... sometimes rarely, sometimes a lot. it just depends on what's around, i.e. how much my boyfriend offers me some haha.
I think it's ludicrous to say that people are "addicted" to it. ANYTHING can be psychologically addicting, yes, but in my opinion that is only depending on the person's weakness in character. You only LET yourself rely on the stuff, nothing more, nothing less than that. I used to be one of those people that felt like I "needed" it, until one day I decided I didn't want to depend on it anymore, and then I simply DIDN'T.
I didn't have any physical withdrawals because it isn't actually addicting. I used to smoke cigarettes, used to drink, used to eat sugar, etc. and quitting smoking weed was a breeze when I did it for some time.
I smoke when I want to now, because I know I can handle it, and know that I don't need it.
It does help with aches and pains though, so I tend to use it medicinally when I have cramps, headaches, etc.
I think the majority of people are VERY under-educated about marijuana because there are is SO MUCH conflicting information out there, almost all of it is biased, and it's hard to know where to draw the line between the truths and fictions...
Going from smoking cigarettes to smoking weed I can say with ease that smoking weed has NO WHERE near the effect on your lungs that cigarettes do...and some might say that's because "you smoke less weed"---
Uh, that's definitely not why. There was a time when I smoked a LOT of weed, and there was never any instance where I felt even CLOSE to as sh!tty as I felt when I smoked cigarettes. I never woke up hacking up a lung from pot, like I did from cigarettes... it has never in any way, shape, or form really affected my breathing what-so-ever.
I even smoked through a cold and was completely fine.
I am not saying that weed is completely without fault and that there aren't problems that can go along with it, but honestly the issues that people bring up are either way exaggerated, or just hearsay and not based on first hand experience.
For ME, weed has far more benefits than anything... BUT every one is different...like I always say... every BODY is different, and so it's hard to say if it affects one person this way, if it will affect the next person the same way.
Also take into account different strains of marijuana, the way it is grown, harvested, etc. Marijuana that is more potent in THC can give you a far more intense high, which for those who are not used to it, could experience some mentally scary things...even panic attacks.
"Shwag" or dirty weed can actually GIVE you headaches, at times...
It really varies, from person to person, and from this weed to that weed. It varies upon how much of it you smoke, etc.
Also there have been studies where people who had brain tumors smoked weed and showed significant reduction in their tumors, so I highly doubt that it *causes* cancer, especially since one of its main medical uses is to treat pain in cancer patients.
And on another note I'd like to say, that if you take ANY prescription or over the counter medication for any reason at all, I don't think you can say much about weed. They all have their risks associated with them, just as much as anything else... I'd be more afraid to take a Tylenol, than smoke a bowl...
and I am right with dandelion7 on this... completely.
BushCrazyRaw: maybe you should try that argument on someone who is a cancer patient, or suffering insomnia, or migraines, or glaucoma, or stomach issues, or...
though a lot of people might use it recreationally to feel differently mentally, it does have medical purposes, and I think it's a little ignorant and insulting to those who are suffering chronic illnesses to even blame them for "relying on the drug to make them feel good"
if you were in a lot of pain because you had cancer, you wouldn't do anything to do feel better?
I think it's total BS that alcohol, hydrogenated oils, high fructose corn syrups, various prescription medications, etc. are legal, and pot isn't, and is somehow singled out when it's far less of a concern to your health than any of the above mentioned LEGAL substances.
just because something is legal doesn't make it healthy or safe or a good idea,
and all the same,
just because something is ILLEGAL doesn't necessarily mean it's a bad idea or evil.
there are a lot of things that are very flawed in our system that we should be questioning, rather than following blindly...
Don't get me wrong here - I 100% support the use of marijuana for valid medical reasons. What I DON'T understand are people who get high for no reason at all other than to get high.
I'm personally shocked that you would consider addiction a "weakness in character." You are completely dismissing the physiological aspect of addiction, which is ludicrous.
If things like EFT and hypnosis can resolve addictions, that says it was all in the head, right?
Oh sorry, my bad - you're right. Anorexics and alcoholics are just weak-minded people. How ridiculous of me to think otherwise.
I have strong feelings about this topic but don't need to say them because Tweedle said it all. Thanks Tweedle!
Anyway, just like being raw vegan, it's a personal choice. Glad everyone has a chance to share thier views on this friendly forum!
I don't think it has anything to do with being weak-minded or of weak character. We rarely choose the experiences that lead us down the path to addictions (well, I guess it could be argued that we "chose" our current lives to learn/evolve through our experiences, but you know what I mean). But things like EFT and hypnosis (and NLP and EMDR) work by either neutralizing or bypassing the neural pathways that have been built in our brains that make us wired for the addictions. You know, when someone looks at us in a certain way how it reminds us of every other time someone else looked at us that way and the resulting conflict or emotions that came with it? The video or audiotape that plays over and over throughout our lives? The process of addiction works the same way. Therapy and counseling can work but it can take a looooooong time to get there when, sometimes, just going around those pathways can give instant relief.
I'm reminded of one of my favorite parts of one of my favorite books, "The Four Agreements". The author points out that humans are the only animals that punish ourselves over and over for the same offense. Other animals learn from their mistakes and move on (if they survive it!). I think addictive tendencies are a big, big part of that.