Many questions: Blenders and raw --> a Follow-up to Shaker's "Vitamix a Toxic Blender" ?!!

Wow was reading all the educational info from Shaker about the Vitamix...I know that original thread was over a year ago but I still have questions.

I have been looking into getting a high priced blender...but have not as of yet due to fund restrictions AND not knowing which one to get. Now after reading all the info provided from Shaker I am more confused and dont know what I'm going to do.

I am borrowing a Breville ikon from my friend...It's only 750 watts but it has a glass carafe and the blade looks wicked but will it cut my items to the "micron" level that our cells need to utilize the nutrients in them...hmmmm I have no clue. How do you know if the greens and/or fruit and other veg is shredded "enough"? Doesn't our body "digest" the food down to a usable level?? I mean sure its great to help the body by breaking foods down some, but are we going overboard with this? I mean what if we had no electricity...we would only have our mouth, teeth, tongue, saliva etc.. to masticate the foods right?? So if I eat a salad I'm not getting benefits from it?? To be honest, I don't sit there chewing anything to a liquid state before swallowing it...am I wasting my time eating salads?? This is not making sense to me on many levels.

Our body is a living machine! I'm thinking as long as the food is raw and having nutritional value our body will use it as it needs no?? I'm not an expert by any means so I would really love to hear people's knowledge and opinions about this whole debate. I want to do the right things for my overall health. Am I struggling...yes. I feel overwhelmed with so much info streaming from all directions. Plastic, glass, stainless steel...which one and why?? To sprout or not to sprout, eat hybrids no don't eat hybrids, onions are bad-o-nions are great, grains are toxic-grains are good, raw nuts, sorry they aren't REALLY raw, oh these raw nuts are loaded with toxins but they are raw, you need aerobic bacteria in your colon, you need X amount of superfoods and it's going to cost you MORE monthly than your housing payment BUT you will be healthy and homeless, distilled water, prill water, ionized water geeeez can I just get a drink of water??!! Uuuuugh so confusing? And so expensive! I need to move to a third world country and grow my own foods and live away from civilization I think!!

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  • Glamazon, take it easy! I know exactly how you feel. Working in a raw restaurant, I was surrounded by people in the raw community all the time, each day coming out with new ways to refine their 'rawness.' For the beginner, it is certainly overwhelming.

    We get down on the medical community for not trusting the intuition and natural healing ability of the body, but now us on the alternative side are starting to do the same thing! No, we don't need blenders to masticate our food for us! I know Victoria Boutenko said that she was eating tons of greens every day but didn't feel better until she started to blend them into green smoothies.

    First of all, that is anectdotal. She is not a doctor, or someone with a degree in Nutrition, or anything of the sort. I love her, and I've seen her speak live, but I take what she says with a grain of salt; I'm studying for a degree in Holistic Nutrition, and I'm going to trust the peer reviewed studies I've read over her anectdote. Truth is, your body CAN extract those nutrients! Yes! Your body is completely capable, unless you have some kind of digestive problem, in which case you may need to take the extra step of blending them. As long as you chew your food to completion, you'll be fine. It is true the body does produce cellulase. But your body is equipped to break down cellulose using the cellulase that is usually found in raw vegetables and fruits containing cellulose.

    I don't know what percent raw you are, but if I were you, I would just not focus on all the definitions within definitions at this point. Honestly, I beleive that if we are relaxed and doing it a little wrong, our bodies will respond better to it than if we are stressed about it and doing it all right! Raw is not a religion, it is a way of eating...no one will damn you to hell for drinking non ionized water! And trust me, you won't get cancer from that either!

    Think about how many people eat SAD every day, and feel fine? To hear the way some in the raw community put it, I am surprised people in the USA who aren't eating raw are still alive! But they are. Yes there are health problems abound, but people are still alive and the body is still thriving, because the body was made to thrive. I also hear some in the raw community acting like eating raw will give you magical superpowers, one guy even said being fruitarian made it so he could slice his arm open with a knife and felt no pain, and it healed in 2 days. COME ON!

    Just relax, and eat what you know to be raw, and don't sweat it. After a while, your body will tell you what it wants. You may start to notice that onions bother you one day. Then you can eliminate them. If you feel great and you're eating onions, keep eating them! Try distilled water one week and see how you feel. Maybe you'll notice you feel better with spring water one day. But for now, just do what is within your means, and relax; you will certainly notice a difference from the relaxing alone!

  • PS, by chewing food to completion, don't worry about chewing it to a liquid state at this point; just chew a little more than you would usually. Eventually your body will start to prefer it that way, and chewing longer will be an effortless transition. That's all! I've written you a novel lol...or maybe more like a manifesto!~

  • LOL thanks so much edamame3 for your lovely reply. Almost as long as some of my replies--it's contagious LOL!! I'm just so wigged out by all the information overload. Think it's totally awesome that you are doing the holistic nutrition...best of luck!! I thought I had alot of health and wellness know-how but apparently not LOL hey I know we never stop learning but sheeeeesh I'm in learning overdrive!!

    I'm really LOL becoz I'm pretty sure you read that thread about the superpowered human fruitarian from my post LOL. That was my first encounter with the term fruitarian and the guy that told me that whole thing was a little off....but a good guy nevertheless.

    Reality is every single one of us have the ability to be healthy and thrive. I do know the body can heal itself givien the right environment and nutritional support.You are absolutely right--stress is the ultimate killer!! I am always amazed in the extraordinary things people can do and accomplish. I am feeling better the more raw I add to my daily consumption. I am struggling to be 100% and IDK if I will ever be 100% but would like to get majority raw...don't wanna get hung up on a number or percentage.

    I am finding that it is very expensive to be organic raw here in USA. I know raw is a great thing but like all things that start off great and should be readily available to everyone, somehow it gets turned into profit making situation and every Tom, Dick and Harry get involved with bigger better this and that. Like every other thing in life, one can have a tough time deciphering all the hype from fact. The good thing about raw is that everyday people can do it and it [should be] is easier than I am making it I think. I am doing MY raw but I'm always open to easier and more efficient ways of doing it. I want the most nutrition and for the best price---imagine that!! I'm thankful for this site and it's members. Like you, they are very encouraging and helpful!!

    Peace to you!!

    Lo~

  • oh no, lol, was the super fruitarian guy from your post? I was thinking about him the other day, thinking that if I sliced myself in the arm and it was painless, that would be indicative of a serious issue, like neuropathy haha! Man, I've heard crazier stuff than that, though. Victoria Boutenko's son, Sergei Boutenko, said he went raw and his cavities magically filled themselves, and his bone growing back in his teeth pushed out all of his fillings from before.

    And people still quote him like he's an accurate source!

    Anyway, I know that a lot of fruits and vegetables don't necessarily need to be organic; you might want to research the dirty dozen and just keep it at that! It will make your life easier, at least for now. I'm trying to start a garden this spring, so hopefully that will ease the pocketbook troubles with the organic food. It sucks it's so expensive to eat well.

    Personally, I beleive that unless you are growing all of your own food, it is impossible to be 100% raw because something will always have been processed without your knowledge. But hey, blood 'poisoning' (the famous leukocytosis i keep talking about) only occurrs when the meal is under fifty percet raw, so as long as you're over fifty percent, you're good! Keep that in mind hehe!

    Good luck!

  • Okie dokie thanks luv. Where do you live? I'm in NJ but i rent a place so no place to start my own garden altho I would love to be able to have my own. Fresh cucumbers are theeeee best! I told my husband I'm thinking we should move to India...cheaper and better quality of living. I mean yeah you have less in some areas but so much more in others. Don't get me wrong I love the USA but food-wise its not a great place financially when trying to get back to basics and natural eating.

    Have a great week!

    Lo~

  • I looove India and I've never even been there lol! Well, let's just say I grew up with the culture; my best friend was from Gujarat growing up, and they were kind of my adoptive family; they turned me vegetarian and showed me all the cool ways I could be vegetarian at restaurants and at home...they also showed me henna, music, movies, cooking, and even a little of their religion (they're Jain). It's such a beautiful culture. I know it's completely different than over here, too, but still. Any culture than can come up with Bhangra dancing is kick ass, in my opinion! That is like the funnest, most vibrant thing on this earth! Besides raw food, that is hehe!

    I live in Chicago. I'm in an apartment, so I'm using my mom's backyard for garden space. We're going to work on it together. For crops like beans that aren't very productive, I'm going to guerilla garden in a forest preserve or some plot of land that is unused around my house, so I can plant a lot and not take up all of my garden space.

    Are you from India? What part?

  • Namaste Edamame3 Jii!!

    Kya Bath Hai? [that means what's up?!] No I'm a GORI [white chick hahaha] actaully I'm a Heinz 57...my father is Native American Cherokee and Kiowa, my mom is a mix of eveything and anything. Back in the day esp in CA they did not claim being Native so even my mom has some but her grandmother put down Italian as her nationality. She had a more olive complexion so i guess they believed it! Ridiculous. We really have come a tremendous way in the last few decades!!!

    LOL I just replied to your comment on Bryan's thread. I think we have our own personal convo going on here. My husband is Bengali...but rasied in Hydrabad so he does like more southern style of indian food. I have learned to cook thru a few of the Aunties. Then I have looked up many recipes online and did alot of experimenting. He tends to love whatever I cook. I'm a foodie to begin with so I tend to spice anything up and make it good. You know, come to think of it, my husband has never cooked for me!! His friends say he is a good cook...HA well I wouldn't know!

    Yes we usually have prayer music playing every morning...it's quite relaxing. Getss the day stared off rright I think. He tends to sing LOUDLY in the shower as well LOL but it's nice. Some days I find myself giggling listening to him. There are some days when he is really belting it out that it annoys me, and I will bang on the door and say "Zippit it Gandhi" I'm so bad. Thankfully we have a fun-loving relationship. He can be hilarious at times.

    What nationality are you? I have found that MAJORITY of Indians are very kind and gracious to me. They are ALL nice to my face anyway LOL. It's not like it was a great thing for him to marry outside his cast. But he only has his mother left and she and his father married out of cast as well. She is a doll and although we have translation problems at times, I know she does truly care for me and is happy we are happy. We are planning a trip there in a few months actually. Our originally one got canceled due to work situations. She may come out and stay with us again as well. But she is happy with her place...her gardens, the neighbor children all treat her like their grandma...she has her brother there as well. We shall see.

    WOW Jain...did they wear the mask to stop bugaloos and air born living creatures from being inhaled? That seems like an extreme way of living to me...not that I know anything about it really. It's awesome you got to learn from them. I still crack up at the Bollywood movies. No where else can something serious be happening and everyone busts out in dance!! I love all the vibrant colors. So much joy. Wish more people would break out in dance in real life! World would be a better place.

    My friend iEileen s in Chicago helping her mother...she has cancer. I have never been there. Eileen is hating the weather. She coinstantly says how she misses LasVegas. i keep telling her listen Vegas sucked and she is better away from it. Reality is i miss the dry heat myself. The humid weather here is summer sucks. Oh well like I tell her...I have all the lovely vegetation and beautiful flowers i was sorely missing being in the desert all those years. It's a give and take. ultimately i would love to live in Hawaii but who can afford that. Unless you are native you cant own property, or so I have heard.

    Ok well enjoy your day!!

    Alvida

    Lauran~

  • Ap Kiseh Ho! (sp??)

    Hey,

    I actually think that's cool about only the natives being able to own property! I love to see their heritage preserved, even if a lot of times it's for the sake of tourism.

    About Rawbryan being Asian, I know exactly what you mean. My husband is Bulgarian; we have a playful relationship too; I call him "Borat" lol...he has an accent, and he'll try and say quotes from the Borat movie as a joke around people, and I wll have to tell everyone he's joking because he already has an accent! I'll be like 'No, no...he's doing Borat, he's not actually SAYING that..." But yeah, my husband will say things that are fightin words, but totally doesn't know that or mean it.

    I myself am part Russian Jew, part Irish, Half Italian and I have just a bit of Mongolian in there to spice things up. Culturally, I'm 100% American! I always loved Indian people and wondered how it would be to enter their world as a girlfriend or wife. They were always accepting of me, too, but I wasn't family per se. I always loved their games they would play whenever the family would get together; always physical, fun games outside that were easy to learn, and everyone played them, even the elderly. We went and did a lot of family stuff too, like go to forest preserves, go cherry picking, go to the dunes, etc. Such nice people.

    LOL to the bugaloos! They didn't wear the mask around me! For the most part, I didn't notice their religion, but I did see alters set up to their ancestors around the house, and I did remember seeing red swastikas painted above the doorways one time and me and their daughter were like 'Why are their swastikas painted above the doors???" lol, or the father wouldn't cut this one gigantic weed right in the center of the lawn because he thought it was good luck. His daughter would be so embarrassed, but he refused to cut it hehe!

    Life with the inlaws is interesting...being from a communist country, the inlaws are overly formal and kind of come off like they don't like you, when really I guess they do. Like when my husbands mom came here from Bulgaria for the first time, we planned a lunch date so my mom could meet her mom. We took her to a restaurant and she refused to eat anything. It was weird, we didn't know how to take it. We even ordered her two or three different things, thinking maybe the first thing was something she just didn't like. She was like 'oh, not hungry' she didn't speak ANY english, so we called my husband on the way home to see what was up, and he talked to her on the phone. When he got off, he said she said that there wasn't a fork, that's why she didn't eat anything. And there was! We were like what? It was really weird. It's thing after thing like that where it's a culture clash, but still no understanding comes out of it in the end, so it's been difficult to get close to them. I guess after a couple of years of trying, we came to the conclusion that maybe they just don't want to be close to anybody, so we stopped trying. Sounds like your experience has been a lot better than mine!

    Anyway, I'm gonna go paste what I wrote here about rawbryan (I cut it out of this message) on the rawbryan forum!~

    Talk to you lates!

    Renee

  • Phir se namaste Renee ;D

    in response to your question...mein theek hoon [I'm fine or good] get it confused hahha

    LOL Borat thats hilarious. My husband really doesn't have an accent but he pours it on to make me laugh esp whne Im fussing about something he did or didn't do LOL. He flirts with an accent too--such a freak LOL

    During thanksgiving we were at the store and I am about 3 inches taller so imagine the looks we get anywhoooo the store was giving free turkeys if you buy a certain amount within the month. This elderly woman kept staring at him so he busts out in HARD indian accent..."Wife did you get our freeeeee turkey"?!! I'm like "Darling YOU don't even like turkey"...he goes on "OH! My Luv but it's free"..".Woman if you are going to be considered a GOOD indian wife you must get all the free things available to your husband"!! "So now I'm calling everyone to tell them NOT to buy anything else for their houses, to give me the money and miiiiy WIFE will do the shopping for them"!! I was LMAO--saying with my Indian accent "Oh my gooodnezzzzzz, I'm so so sorry Ba. Forgive me?"....then when we walked out both laughing like wackOs he kept going and I was like "yo shut the hellll up you are nuts now". Wondering, is you husband spoiled by his mom? Mine is so used to being catered to it's ridiculous. But aren't ALL foreign men? Males are always so prized---absolutely aggravating! Then we women have to deal with them and ultimately REtrain them hahahha

    WOW I guess I did have it much easier with my hubby's mom. BUT Indian people by nature as you already know, are very kind and mello. They go out of their way to be helpful---esp the women. I guess your in-laws being form a harder place of origin tends to make one less friendly or receptive to others. That's a bummer. Hopefully as time goes by she will see your inner light and how lovely and caring you are and ultimately be drawn to it. Ya nevaaaaa know it could happen!! Like a moth but hopefully your light won't kill them.

    I wish my husband would be more active. He is a lazy arse. He prefers to stay in and sleep when he is not working!! I have never met anyone that can sleep as much as he can. I'm kinda jealous of it really. I always get him up and out though. We go to museums, movies, parks. I can walk the whole dayand love it, but few hrs in and he starts whining LOL and he is a small framed person. I'm amazonian [like that better than the term chunky monkey] Haaaaa! Oh well. I am wat I am. But this past month I have dropped 20lbs so I'm happy. Think if I really did raw 100% I would drop even more. I'm getting there...and I'm feling better so that should keep me on track.

    How does your husband like your raw lifestyle? Is he raw along with you? Mine is not but he does mostly veg. He does eat chicken and fish when I prepare it for him. He has Lamb occasionally when we go out to Indian places. Honestly he is very happy and content with dal and rice. He lives off of it daily. If I ate as much rice as he does I would be over 300lbs!! He doesn't eat bread at all really...bread being my arch enemy LOL it's a trigger food for me. one piece and I lose my mind and binge...then feel awful get depressed which triggers a need for seratonin and simple carbs its a vicious cycle!! But I am doing so much better than years ago...thats another LONG story so i won't go there LOL

    Totally off topic but I just watched Earthlings...Have you seen that?? I knew ALOT of the stuff animals go thru because of being raised on the farm. But had NO IDEA just how bad it has gotten. Absolutely horrible. I cried thru-out the DVD and ended up vomitting at one point. So I told Pratik he can cook off the stuff in freezer but I won't be able to buy it for him should he want it in the future. I used to eat chicken and fish and even eggs...but had to have no bones or it would remind me that it used to be alive and then I could not eat it. I personally don't think eating meat is a sin BUT I do think if that is your choice you should have to kill it yourself. Looking back I remember my uncle would walk the cow out in the field petting her talking to her etc...,he would reach down and slice the back of the leg and they would bleed out without even knowing. I know that sounds horrible but it really was a humane way to do it. I think Ima have to make a new thread about this. So I may cut and paste this last paragraph as well hahahaha

    Anyway as always lovely to read from you!! You are cool peepz! I look forward to furutue communication as well.

    Apna khayal rakhna [take care] & hanste raho [keep smiling]

    Many blessings to you and yours!!

    Lo~

  • Hey,

    I haven't seen Earthlings but I have seen a lot of PETA type documentaries about what goes on in factory farming, and it is absolutely unacceptable and disgusting. I stopped eating meat once and for all then. I like to support local farms, and the bison industry because they have free roaming bison and pretty much aren't factory farming *yet*, though as bison becomes more popular they probably will soon...But yeah my husband's a huge meateater so I was thinking of buying into a local farm Co-op to get fresh, raw dairy and fresh meat from cows that get to be cows, and eggs from chickens that get to be chickens.

    What is most interesting to me is around the same time, I had a friend who was initiated into the Haitian Voodoo religious tradition, and I watched a photodocumentary about their initiation process. I was horrified when I saw that they actually did engage in animal sacrifice at every ritual; but then, I realized that they then ate every part of whatever animal they sacrificed! And they were grateful for the animal, and in fact, they were simply acknowledging the soul of the animal and their spiritual connection before they killed every animal they ate. I walked away from that thinking that Voodoo sacrifice is much more humane and respectful to animals than factory farming!

    My husband will eat raw stuff, but after eating an entirely raw meal he will get severe diarreah every time. His body is not accustomed to all that fiber, and that's really not a good thing! When left to his own devices, he will eat hot dogs, mayonnaise and white bread, and that's about the extent of what he knows how to make for himself. Literally, sometimes I will catch him just eating slices of bread with mayonnaise spread on it. Barf!

    That's funny that you call yourself 'Amazonian' lol...I am shorter than my husband and we look appropriately sized when we're with one another, BUT when we go to Bulgarian parties, I feel like a GIANT. All of the women are like five feet tall with little bird bodies, and little tiny ribcages. I feel like Godzilla. Especially considering the fact that Eastern European women like to dress really provocatively all the time...I wear a size 10 shoe, and when I take my shoes off at the door, next to all those little size 5 1/2 shoes it looks like a tranny came to the party lol! I'm about 5'7" and 140lbs, and on average they are all 5'1" and 90-100lbs. When I started raw, I was 152lbs; the weight fell off effortlessly! I went off raw for about four months and my weight crept back up to 145, but now I'm back to 140. My low when I was raw was 135lbs. And I was eating raw desserts on the daily! I had an ice cream sundae every day in addition to a fabulour meal provided by the raw restaurant I was working for, snacks, chocolate green smoothis in the morning, etc. Crazy!

    Anyway, hilarous story about the turkey; i act annoyed sometimes but I love having a foreign husband hehe!

    I have laryngitis today and yesterday, so it's been nice 'talking' to you as I haven't really been able to 'talk' to anyone else lol!

    I'm trying really hard to heal before I work tommorow night...at this point, doesn't look like it's gonna happen...;-(

    Talk to you later!

  • Oh sorry bot the laryngitis...hmmmm what is your body trying to tell you?? Are you fearful of speaking up or have resentment of authority

  • Haha wow this thread really has become our own private convo lol! I wonder if anyone has tried to answer it, then saw what we've written and thought 'eeeh, better not' lol!

    I'd looove to go to India, even if they trade me for a llama and a goat! Speaking of which, that is one of my dreams: I want to have a raw vegan bed and breakfast out in the country, grow my own food and herbal medicine, raise alpacas (mini llamas hehe) and goats, and have it be a retreat house.

    My husband looks at that dream like it's something for 'peasants'...in Bulgaria, the rich and the city people eat white bread, and the lowly peasants and country people eat 'dark bread' as he calls it. I think that's just hilarious, it's the opposite here. But he's got this thing; the American Dream, and he looks at my dream as what we'll do if his dream fails lol; 'If the economy gets worse and I go out of business, THEN we can move out to the country and have a potato garden, as is your dream' he says...I don't remember saying anything about potatoes lol! But he's like mad that I want to live like a lowly Bulgarian peasant lol! Such a different mindset.

    He actually does respect my dream, though, and said that we could buy the farmhouse and do all of that, as long as we can have another house in the suburbs, too. Two houses! Just like Frida Kahlo and Diego; they had two houses joined by a bridge. I think a lot of marriages would do well if each person had their own space. But I don't know...I love living with my husband, even if it's in a snowglobe too! Head and Shoulders is our best friend over here, as well...I think it is because my husband has a raging case of Candida. He grew up eating sugar and white bread and pretty much anything refined, so it would make sense. He has all the symptoms. I just can't get him to lay off the sugar. Which sucks, probably means he'll die before me and leave me alone...he's even admitted that that is probably what will happen, as he would rather have a heart attack than give up sausage. That makes me want to puke; how could anyone think that way?? But, I just have to respect where he's at. *sigh*

    By the way, about bread being your undoing, I know your husband is from the South and they aren't too big on Naan there, but my GOODNESS get me started on Naan and I can't stop! Fluffy, warm, buttery naan....ooh the memories! I love how in the Indo Paki restaurant by my house, they charge by the basket for bread, but bring out chicken no charge. It's weird. I would think the chicken would be what you charge for. Maybe he was just being nice to us? He's out of business now, so...maybe too nice to everyone lol!

    So do you have any kids? I'm sure there's pressure for you to if you haven't already...to have nice, strong SONS, right? Unless you're past that point, in which case lucky you! At least in my opinion lol.

    I told my husband when I married him I did not want kids ever, and he said that's fine. Well, five years later, he admits he actually does want kids, and worse than that, he always had wanted kids, he just thought I was young and I would change my mind as I got older! Well, I'm older, and I haven't changed my mind!! That's been the cause of our most recent fights, though when it comes down to it, it's my body and my decision. I keep trying really hard to want kids, but I just can't. Part of the reason for this is because I know I would love the kid too much, and it would take away from my marriage. Petar and I have a really strong and close connection, and I don't want to lose any part of that, even if it's for something special as the bond i could have with a child.

    In any case, I've got two sugar gliders (rainforest animals) and a bunny, and that's enough for me!~ My husband can't help but talk about eating the rabbit every chance he gets...I guess in Bulgaria you wouldn't keep a pet like a rabbit unless you were planning on eating it lol...so I've gotta keep a close eye out for where my bunny is at all times!

    I'm feeling better already! It's been nice talking to you during my sick days! Too bad you don't live in Chicago or we'd hang out! I'm sure the culture clash not only between us and our husbands, but between our husbands themselves would provide us with a lot of enterainment lol!

    Talk to you later!~

  • LOL I know I was thinking that very thing...if anyone has actually read this thread an decided we have our own personal convo going on LOL

    Yes there is pressure to have a son BUT I recently ended up with a hysterectomy...went in for fibroid removal to help with the getting pregnant and ended up with it gone...huge fibroids and one attached to main vessel I was told. the picture of it was disgusting...looked like a butterball turkey with a leg missing. I have always had female issues. I thought the fact that I no longer had my parts it would be a deal breaker for "us" honestly. Prat's father had Alzheimer's so he has his mind set that HE will get it as well and does not want to have children but his mother truly wants him to reproduce. Lately we have discussed an Indian surrogate. Recently friends came back and mentioned it would only cost like 1,000 bucks for one over there plus food and Dr bills. Can you imagine?!! Who knows...we have also discussed adopting. I don't want to make a major "purchase" let alone have a child in this economy. We borrow our friend's kids occasionally, so we are good for now LOL Besides Prat is lazy I tell you. He wouldn't help so i would be stuck having TWO kids to care for. I'll pass LOL

    Yeah white bread...actually it was probably a nice crusty artisan bread but the crust was removed for the rich back in the day. They assumed because their was more to the process of making it [extra stripping of the wheat and all] that the rich were more worthy and priviledged to eat the "crap" white bread plus all the rich meats and gravies. Combo for a heart attack if ever there was one!! The peasants had to eat the vegetables that were common to their area. So the rich were lazy and malnourished and died earlier while the peasants worked and ate naturally from the earth and ultimately out lived all the rich gluttons. So maybe that's where that saying "your health is worth more than money" came from???

    The American dream HA!! I want a simple life. I don't want to keep up with the Jones's. I want a comfortable home, with a huge kitchen, my own garden, and a place to have a couple of Poms LOL actually after Boog leaves me I don't want any more. I can't take the pain of losing them. It's brutal. My babies were my angels. They really knew what I was saying...at times more than my husband I think. I miss Kykki and everyday my heart aches knowing Boog is leaving soon. I don't want to upset her so I find myself crying in the shower daily because I feel so helpless. I think she sticks around for me. I massage her and kiss her head...before i leave I tell her..."If you need to leave momma you go, I will always love you and I will be ok so you can go" Oh gaaaawd just typing that I'm crying like a dork. She is my baby. Prat is not used to having an animal live inside but then he fell in love with her too. He always had all the stray animals at his house though in India...his mom loves animals too. Where she is now her garden is so lovely but all of her fruit trees are awesome. The monkeys come by daily and sit on her wall eating some of the fruits. That is a '"dream" to work for in my opinion. I am thankful I was born in America. I love America but I just think our society has gotten off track. I think other countries have better quality of life and they have so much less material things. I want quality not quantity. It's overindulgence that got me in trouble. oo much food, too much waste, too much wanting this and that, then you acquire it and end up tossing it after a short time. It's terrible really. I used to have things that gave me great joy now not so much. Thats another reason I'm turning to raw to re-ignite my life spark.

    Are you still working at a raw rest?? Did you go to school for it or learn as you were working? I love cooking for people. It makes me feel good to see people enjoying something I have prepared---my mother hen tendency hahaha I'm jazzed to learn how to prepare more raw type dishes. It's an adventure...and I'm in need of an adventure. I do feel better and I haven't gained weight like I normally do being all veg so that's a great thing in my book. I'm slowly learning to listen to my inner voice again. I'm thankful for it guiding me to this site and for communicating with good people like you. Thanks for being so open and sweet. if I go to Shy-Town I will def look ya up. You ever go to NYC??

    Ok enjoy your night. Type atcha again soon LOL

    My norm Email addie is rawlikeme40@yahoo.com in case we get bumped off here LOL

  • Hey Renee!!

    Long time no communicadO.Hoping all is well with you and Borat?!! *big smiles* me and my little camel jockey are doing good. Having a hard time with my baby Boog...I keep hoping she will pass on her own but thinking I may have to help her...she has had few HARD days. I think she stays for me coz she knows how much I love her. Terrible that she was here and only gave love yet she having a struggle at the end of her journey. Ok let me stop coz I'm crying again..... Weather is sucking last couple of days which is not helping my emotional situatuion. Gotta have rain to enjoy the sun. Oh well it is what it is.

    Have a great week. Look forward to hearing/reading from you again soon. My friend lives in Marengo...is that close to you? Her mom has cancer again so she is there helping her out. It's a difficult situation.

  • these are great comments, I agree with you 100% -- thanks for keepin' it real. :-)

  • Uh, my comment was responding to Edamame just to clarify.

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