Oh Jenoz…I like your definition of prayer and meditation. Ya know, when I am relaxed and peaceful, I do feel closer to God and communicate better with God because I can listen. When I am all stressed out I am crabby, snappy and make bad judgements.

Kendra, read your profile. I have some happy poems for you. I didn’t know you were a minister either! Send me an email and I’ll send you some old poems off of the top of my head.

How beautiful marionvalleygirl! far_above.rubies@yahoo.com I can’t wait to hear them!

im a born again christian for 3 years now and i start that holosync thing for about 3 weeks now, i dont feel no harm yet n i used it more to relax than to get a new way to get to heaven... i had a funny experience while listening to immersion the 1 st time , i would like to share with u if possible...

Kendra, I too have used Holosync and if anything It has brought me closer to God. By helping you get better deal with your problems it helps you think more clearly and I actually can understand more of what Jesus was meaning for us.

I highly recommend them.

As far as subliminal messages they tell you exactly what is on them, plus the program itself all messages are recorded BY YOU in Your voice.

Hi,

I had a personal experience of Jesus! Recently, too. If you ask, it is given. I struggle with faith everyday, and applying judgment is not the right way to overcome problems. Listen to your heart. It is Jesus. The seat of the Holy Spirit.

Meditate daily. Jesus did! Meditation is listening to God, prayer is talking to Him/Her/It. (Trying to come to terms with a male god is my first problem.)

As far as this other freak that hates Yoga--Meditation came from the East. So did Christianity. Xenophobia is racial bias, as far as I'm concerned.

Check out Dr. Jeffrey Thompson. Holy Spirit led me to him, I believe.

"Sleep is your greatest meditation." -Dalai Lama

Sorry to continue, but raw food veganism was brought here by an indian medicine man, and Paul's sermon encourages us to eat meat. So you are going to have to give up raw food veganism if you wish to cherry pick the Bible for information.

Secondly, science and religion both consider the same truth, and though the words they use are different, will eventually point to the same truth. Thus, anything scientific is also spiritual, as per the Greek 'episteme,' the original meaning of the word. Empirical knowledge, not dogmatic reasoning on either side.

As per my religious experience with Jesus, I was smoking pot, so it could have been hallucination, OBE--both experiences are equally valid. But pot does not cause hallucinations, and the voices told me when they were going to leave.

3 months of this, then SHEBANG! Instantly cured. What do you think caused this? The whole episode was ridiculous, but I did quit pot around the same period, and COMPLETELY convincing? Mind you, my premonitions keep coming true, I don't want to believe anything on the basis of knowledge, but on fact. I'm all ears!

This thread is teh lol.